What is "disestablishmentarianism"? In this episode, Craig speaks with Michael Korbel about his article Against Those Who Are Against the State, where he defines this word(antidisestablishmentarianism) as a mindset of being against those who are against the establishment. Right now, those of us who are refusing to comply with current mandates are being not only ridiculed but actually kicked out of businesses and schools. Together, we explore how we got to this point, what we can do to thrive in this environment, and how understanding the word disestablishmentarianism can help us frame current events.
Michael Korbel is the host of The Invictus Mind podcast where he interviews experts about political, financial, and spiritual freedom for the individual. Invictus is Greek for unconquerable. His main message is that individuals have the power to make changes for themselves in their lives. They just have to take that power from those in the systems who claim it over them. You can connect with and learn more about Michael on Facebook, Twitter, MeWe, Instagram, and YouTube.
Timestamps & Starting Points:
2:18 Mask mandates in March 2021
Getting kicked out of the post office
Restaurants making people wear masks to wait, but not to eat
They’re worried about health inspectors
“a lot of these people are just concerned about what the government can do.”
6:11 Antidisestablishmentarianism
means “against those who are against the status quo”
10:03 History of antidisestablishmentarianism
Henry the 8th in 1533
Forbidden to divorce by the Pope
Wanted out of several marriages because no sons
Created the Anglican Church so he could divorce
Everything the king said became a religion
Divine Right of Kings & antidisestablishmentarianism
Anyone who opposed him was opposed
Simultaneously, Luther and others were pulling away from Roman Catholic control
Enlightenment
Other sects were forbidden by England
14:42 Entanglement
Are our laws based on Jesus or the 10 Commandments?
Sort of… only the commandments about loving other people were made into laws here; nothing about who to worship or how
Our founding fathers were not all Christians
They wanted to create a place where anyone could practice religion however they want
Laws were created to keep people safe, not properly religious
Compared to England where there was Divine Right of Kings to speak for God and rule the people with His power
18:06 Can morality be legislated?
“Conservatives believe that without the establishment, morality would cease to exist in society” -Craig
Mike says draw the line at the government throwing people in cages for not living up to your standards of morality
People shouldn’t be allowed to steal or harm others, but why can’t they choose their own relationships?
Craig asks how can you judge these people when you don’t even know any?
They are suffering in the church and contemplating suicide. We’re doing something wrong.
Really, it’s none of our business. Jesus says love people. Period.
Live by Matt Kibbe’s words: “Don’t hurt me; don’t take my stuff.”
If a person is doing something you don’t like, but it doesn’t hurt you, and they’re not taking your stuff… it’s none of your business
The Left’s way of forcing morality
Forcing “charity” through taxes
“The left thinks that they can force people through the state to act a certain way, just like the right thinks they can use the state to force people to act a certain way.” -Craig
26:51 Separation of church and state
We can live with people who have different gods without hurting each other
The state cannot dictate who or how we worship
29:39 How Involved to be in the state
The Early Church had nothing to do with the state
“Nothing about the teachings of Christ said, get your favorite politician elected so we can legislate morality.” - Craig
Christ said to love God; love people
If someone really wants to fix a problem using the state, they can’t. Not without unraveling the entire thing. It’s all so connected
For example: if taxes were abolished, at least three other systems would be devastated
It’s so hard for us to disentangle because we’ve been so tied to the state for so long
"When there are presidential debates, I'd rather watch wrestling. That's more realistic to me than a presidential debate." -Craig
Stop voting.
But if you just can't, at least choose to only vote for your local community leaders
If you must vote at the national level, select a 3rd party candidate
“I can't control what they're going to do. So I might as well just stay out of it.” -Mike
40:09 The fall of the empire
Rulers exploit religion to conquer and pillage
If it falls in our lifetime, I don't anticipate chaos
People will figure out how to adjust
So many parallels to the Roman empire before their collapse
The basement of currency
Lack of morality among common people
Overreaching government
Expanding control to other countries
People need to find something else to put their faith in because it's going down
If it's not our generation, it could be your children's or grandchildren's