141. What Gardening Taught Us About Freedom, Faith, and Community with Corey Ellerbe

What if growing a tomato could change your life?

Okay, maybe that sounds dramatic. But as we learned in our latest episode of The Bad Roman Podcast, planting that first seed might be the beginning of something much deeper, something that touches your spirit, strengthens your community, and helps you step away from systems that don’t serve you.

We sat down with Corey Ellerbe to talk about his gardening journey, how it started, what it’s become, and why it might just be one of the most quietly revolutionary things you can do right now.

From Tomatoes to Food Forests: How It All Started

“I started with just a few tomatoes,” Corey says, “and now I’m dreaming of food forests and agroforestry systems.”

That’s the thing with gardening, it often starts small. A pot of basil on the windowsill. A raised bed in the backyard. Then one day, you’re talking about companion planting, composting, and building systems that can sustain generations.

But Corey’s story is bigger than just a growing love for plants. Like many of us, 2020 shook something loose. The fragility of supply chains, the limits of store shelves, the creeping feeling that we might be more dependent than we want to admit. That was a wake-up call. And gardening became a way to take back a bit of control—and to reconnect with something real.

Why Gardening Matters Right Now

We’re more disconnected from our food than ever. Most of us don’t know where our groceries came from, how they were grown, or what systems were involved in getting them to us. Gardening changes that. It brings you back to your roots—literally and spiritually.

But it also opens up bigger questions:

  • What would it look like to produce food locally again?

  • How can we depend less on centralized systems that often fail us?

  • Can growing food be a form of peaceful resistance?

Corey says yes. And we think he’s onto something.

Key Takeaways from the Conversation

🌱 Start Small—But Start

Corey’s advice for beginners? Don’t try to do everything at once.

“Even if it’s just herbs in a pot,” he says, “that’s a start. And every expert gardener started as a beginner.”

You don’t need land or a greenhouse to begin. Just start with what you’ve got and build from there.

🌾 Gardening as a Quiet Revolution

Gardening doesn’t seem political. But it can be. Choosing to grow your own food instead of buying into industrial ag systems is a step toward independence.

“It’s about rendering the state obsolete through market action,” Corey explains, tying the philosophy back to agorism and voluntaryism. You're not just growing food. You're reclaiming your autonomy.

🤝 Grow Food, Grow Community

One of the most beautiful parts of gardening? It brings people together. Whether you’re trading tomatoes at a local farmers’ market, swapping seeds with neighbors, or helping someone start their first raised bed (these actions build bonds).

“We’re not meant to be totally self-sufficient,” Corey reminds us. “We’re created for community.”

It’s a reminder that self-sufficiency doesn’t have to mean isolation. In fact, the most resilient communities are the ones that grow together.

✝️ Gardening as Worship

For Corey, gardening is also a spiritual practice.

“Watching how everything works together, the soil, the pollinators, the weather, it’s incredible,” he says. “It shows the beauty of God’s design.”

Tending a garden becomes an act of stewardship. It’s a way of caring for creation and slowing down enough to notice the small miracles around us.

Practical Tips for Getting Started

Whether you’re in a city apartment or have a few acres, here’s what Corey suggests:

  • Know your zone. It’s not everything, but understanding your climate will help you pick plants that thrive where you are.

  • Work with nature. Instead of spraying chemicals, learn about beneficial insects and natural pest control.

  • Try stuff. Some things will die. Some will surprise you. Gardening is one big experiment.

  • Talk to local gardeners. Your neighbors (and local nurseries) often have the best advice for your area.

Final Thoughts: What Will You Plant?

This conversation reminded us that gardening isn’t just about food. It’s about slowing down, looking around, and choosing to live differently. It’s about getting your hands dirty, yes, but also getting your soul fed.

So whether you’re dreaming of chickens and food forests, or just wondering if you could keep a basil plant alive, this episode is for you.

Here’s how to keep growing:

  • 🎧 Listen to the full episode with Corey Ellerbe.

  • 📺 Check out Corey’s YouTube channel, Old 37 Homestead, for how-tos and inspiration.

  • 🌱 Plant one thing. Just one. And see what grows from there.

Every garden starts with a seed. What will you plant today?

🤝Connect with Corey:

Episode Timestamps:

(0:44) Gardening and Agrism Discussion

(1:01) Background on Corey's Gardening Experience

  • Living in Central Florida

  • Initial interest in gardening as a teenager

  • Starting gardening after marriage on an acre of land

(3:38) Craig's Gardening Journey

  • Recent start in gardening with pepper plants

  • Challenges with bugs and plant care

(6:46) Gardening Advice from Corey

  • Working with nature rather than against it

  • Importance of natural predators in pest control

  • Regional gardening considerations

(13:39) Corey's Gardening Philosophy

  • Focus on agroforestry and food forests

  • Adapting to Florida's unique climate and soil conditions

(25:04) Gardening as a Way to Subvert the State

  • Discussion on self-sufficiency and community building

  • Comparison to historical examples like the fall of the USSR

(45:35) Gardening and Relationship with Christ

  • Corey's perspective on God's design in nature

  • Observations on synergy in natural systems

(54:55) Old 37 Homestead YouTube Channel

  • Overview of Corey's approach to content creation

  • Focus on real-life gardening experiences and challenges

(1:06:27) Advice for New Gardeners

  • Starting small and not overwhelming yourself

  • Importance of regional-specific gardening knowledge

(1:15:07) Gardening Zones and Regional Considerations

  • Explanation of gardening zones and their significance

  • Adapting plants to different climates

(1:19:39) Closing Thoughts

  • Encouragement for listeners to explore gardening

  • Importance of community and self-sufficiency

Episode Resources:

  1. David the Good: Gardening author and blogger specializing in Southeast/Florida gardening

  2. freedomcells.org: Website for connecting with like-minded individuals for community building

  3. Stefan Verstappen: Survivalism and prepping expert

  4. Curtis Stone: Agorist anarchist gardener from West Canada

  5. Sal the Agorist (Sal Mayweather): Advocate for using markets to subvert the state

  6. USDA Plant Hardiness Zone Map: Tool for determining gardening zones based on zip code

  7. Farmer's markets: Suggested as a great place to learn about regional gardening and find local produce

  8. Vermicomposting: Method of using worms for composting

  9. Agroforestry and food forest systems: Gardening approaches mentioned by Corey

  10. Pigeon pea: Plant example given for perennial food production

  11. Hatsune Miku: Mentioned as an example of a virtual pop star (tangential to main discussion)


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