Lord of the Rings

103. Fiction as a Mirror for Anarchy and Faith Insights with Joseph Macolino

About this Episode

Join us as we embark on a captivating journey with Joseph Macolino, a masterful storyteller whose love for fantasy began in childhood. Joseph shares the evolution of his fictional universe, Evorath, and the tales that populate its thousand-year timeline. Drawing inspiration from literary giants like Tolkien and Orwell, Joseph crafts narratives that resonate deeply with themes of governmental skepticism and the pursuit of a society aligned with the teachings of Christ. His trilogy stands as a testament to the power of fiction in challenging our beliefs and illuminating the path to Christ's kingdom.

Throughout our conversation, we thread the needle between fiction and reality, exploring how the characters in Joseph’s fantasy series confront the winds of change, transitioning from a structured monarchy to a society where Christian anarchist principles reign supreme. This isn't just about creating another world; it's about challenging the status quo, questioning the reader's long-held beliefs, and presenting a tapestry of upheaval that resonates with both historical and contemporary political movements. The tales shared offer more than escapism - they invite introspection and boldly propose a life governed by faith rather than fear

Wrapping up our expedition into Evorath, we delve into the lives of characters who are as multidimensional as the world they inhabit. Villains reveal vulnerabilities and heroes grapple with the unforeseen repercussions of their deeds. Through them, we glimpse a society in flux—a monarchy giving way to a republic, and ultimately an anarchist community living out these principles. It's more than just a fantasy series; it's a reflection of libertarian turned anarchist ideology and the perennial quest for a harmonious existence. Join us for this imaginative and thought-provoking episode that's sure to provoke discussion and maybe even inspire a reevaluation of the way we view our world and the powers that govern it.

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Episode Timestamps:

Timestamps:

01:08 Exploring Anarchy Through Fiction

  •  Introduction to Joseph Macolino, inspired by Tolkien and Orwell.

  • Creation of the fictional universe Evorath, developed from high school to college.

  • Joseph's trilogy explores themes of questioning government authority and discovering Christian principles.

12:35 Spreading Christian Anarchy Through Fiction

  • The intersection of fiction and Christian anarchism is highlighted.

  • Influence of various texts, maintaining a critical perspective.

  • Story arc in fantasy series depicts the transition from monarchy to an anarchist society, paralleling historical movements.

  • Aim to challenge preconceptions and promote Christian anarchism through storytelling.

19:59 Discussing Writing, Influence, and Christianity

  • Focus on Evorath's world-building, where humans are divinely created.

  • Discussion on media influence and personal experiences of non-conformity.

  • Importance of writers in highlighting societal propaganda and Christian resistance.

  • Emphasis on living according to Jesus' teachings despite potential opposition.

28:22 God Is Strategic

  • A personal anecdote about a significant encounter and the concept of divine timing.

  • Reflection on the creative process and progress in writing projects.

  • Introduction of the 'Bad Woman Project' and a call for support.

  • Teaser for the content of upcoming books without giving away specifics.

31:46 Expanding on Book Two Characters

  • Insight into Averath's characters, including the villain Yazook Stahl.

  • Exploration of shapeshifter species and character development.

  • Themes of power, corruption, and societal improvement are examined through character arcs.

39:46 Fantasy Series and Libertarian Ideology

  • Introduction of diverse races and characters in the third book.

  • Characters question tribal loyalties, leading to the formation of a new community.

  • Discussion on societal ideals, comparing the fictional society to voluntarism.

  • Upcoming books to delve into the complexities of a society striving for harmony post-trilogy.


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43. Christianity, Anarchism & The Lord of The Rings with Caleb Kesterson

In this episode, Craig speaks with Caleb Kesterson about his journey to Christian-Anarchy, what the Anabaptist can teach us about Christianity, and his articles, Tolkien and the Night Watchmen State and Tolkein and Power

Caleb is passionate about peace and was raised in Assemblies of God tradition before finding alignment with the anti-war and Jesus-centric approach of the Anabaptist. He now runs a home church, in an effort to foster discipleship and bring the teachings of Christ into the larger society. 

Craig and Caleb finish their conversation by exploring Tolkien’s The Lord of the Rings, and what Tolkien has to teach us through the novels about a voluntary society. We all know the books are better than the movies, and thankfully Caleb is here to give us that insight for a Christian-anarchist perspective.

You can connect with Caleb on Twitter @CalebMK5 and find his articles on the Bad Roman Blog.

Timestamps & starting points:

1:51 Caleb’s Background

4:16 Anabaptist, the State & the Early Church

11:49 How Caleb found the Bad Roman Project

  • Don’t always see anarchy, Christianity, and peace together

13:55 Christian Right vs. Christian Left

  • “Punch people in the mouth lovingly” 

  • Left is honest about Tyranny, Right more secretive; but both do the same things

  • Trump vs. Obama supporters

  • January 6th was trying to keep their master in office

21:00 Absurdities of Statism

  • Biden bombing Syria and not ending “conflict” in Yemen vs. what he said

  • Lysander Spooner - defensive voting

  • Fallacy of defensive voting

    • You are still voting for someone to have power over your neighbor

  • Fear voting is the worst voting

  • Endorsing tyrannical actions overseas and at home

  • Antiwar.com

  • “Shooting people at the borders” is not a Christian sentiment

 26:35 Craig’s Social Media Strategy for making people think

  • Baiting conversation, not to change minds, but for the curious ones in the comments

  • Showing concern for QAnon supporters mental health 

28:26 Is Craig in a cult?

  • Many ways to read the bible

    • Anabaptists start with what Jesus said/did and work from there

  • Jesus, “you’ve seen me you see the father”

  • Let’s get back to Jesus

  • Jesus came not to cause division

    • With 30,00 denominations there is clearly some division

32:05 Caleb’s First Article:

  • Disclaimer: Caleb is not a Tolkien expert

  • Minarchism

  • Tolkien’s Shire is voluntary

    • Hardly any positions in government

    • There is a sheriff

    • A governor 

    • Hierarchy established through family origin 

  • rangers chose to protect the land they are not forced

38:37 Article #2: Tolkien and Power