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140. From Fox News to Faith with Patrick Green

Have you ever felt like your political beliefs were holding you back from truly following Christ? Many Christians struggle to reconcile their faith with their allegiance to earthly governments. In this eye-opening episode of the Bad Roman Podcast, host Craig Harguess sits down with Patrick Green to explore his transformative journey from state worship to embracing the radical message of "No King But Christ."

A Tale of Two Kingdoms

Patrick's story is a powerful reminder that we all start somewhere on our spiritual journeys. Like many Americans, he once placed his trust in political solutions and government institutions:

"At my worst, I couldn't wait to get home from work to turn on Sean Hannity and have him tell me how we were going to save America from the evil Democrats. That's just how lost I was at that point in my life."

Does this resonate with you? Many of us have been caught up in the fervor of partisan politics, believing that if we just elect the right people or pass the right laws, everything will be better. But as Patrick discovered, this mindset often leads us away from Christ rather than towards Him.

The Turning Point

For Patrick, several key realizations shattered his faith in earthly governments:

  • Reading libertarian authors like Lysander Spooner and Murray Rothbard exposed the true nature of the state.

  • Studying the public school system revealed the inherent conflict of interest in state-run education.

  • Examining the Pledge of Allegiance through a Biblical lens highlighted its idolatrous nature.

But the most profound shift came through reading Scripture with fresh eyes. Patrick shares:

"When I read 1st Samuel 8 for the first time, I was instantly cured of any and all remnants of worshiping the government in politics. Whatever was left of that idol was completely smashed."

This passage, where the Israelites demand a king despite God's warnings, speaks powerfully to our modern idolatry of the state. It challenges us to examine where we've placed our ultimate allegiance.

Embracing a New Identity

As Patrick's eyes were opened to the truth of "No King But Christ," he experienced a radical transformation:

  • He no longer sees political opponents as enemies, but as fellow image-bearers of God.

  • He's replacing symbols of state worship (like patriotic tattoos) with reminders of his allegiance to Christ.

  • His hope for change is now rooted in the Gospel, not political action.

This shift didn't happen overnight. It took years of patient conversations, personal tragedy, and deep engagement with Scripture. But the result is a faith that's more vibrant, more Christ-centered, and more aligned with the Kingdom of God.

Challenges and Practical Advice

If you're feeling convicted about your own relationship to earthly governments, Patrick's story offers some valuable insights:

  1. Be patient with yourself and others. Deconstructing deeply held beliefs takes time.

  2. Dive deep into Scripture, especially passages that challenge our assumptions about power and authority.

  3. Seek out mentors and resources that can help you navigate this journey.

  4. Remember that our ultimate citizenship is in heaven, not any earthly nation.

What We Learned About Following Christ in a Political World

Patrick's testimony is a powerful reminder that Jesus calls us to a radically different kind of kingdom. Here are the key takeaways:

  • Our allegiance to Christ should supersede any loyalty to earthly governments or political ideologies.

  • The Bible offers a profound critique of human power structures that's as relevant today as it was thousands of years ago.

  • True freedom and transformation come from submitting to Christ as our only King, not from political solutions.

Are you ready to examine your own beliefs about faith and politics? I encourage you to listen to the full episode for even more insights. And if you have your own story of moving from state worship to "No King But Christ," we'd love to hear it. Share your thoughts in the comments or reach out to us directly.

Remember, our call is to be in the world but not of it. Let's challenge ourselves to live as citizens of God's kingdom first and foremost, trusting in His sovereignty above all earthly powers.

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Episode Timestamps:

(0:22) Guest Introduction: Patrick Green

(0:58) Patrick's Background and Testimony

  • Grew up in Catholic Church, attended Catholic schools

  • Lukewarm faith and lack of understanding of the gospel message

  • Three phases of salvation: breaking down barriers, personal tragedy, receiving the Word

(7:26) Political Idolatry and Awakening

  • Patrick's past obsession with politics and government

  • Reading libertarian books by Lysander Spooner and Murray Rothbard

  • Realizing the true nature of government and the state

(8:28) Overcoming Evolution as a Barrier to Faith

(10:31) Personal Tragedy and Faith Journey

  • Experience of multiple miscarriages

  • Struggle with anger towards God and feelings of despair

(18:55) Turning to Scripture

  • Reading the entire Bible for the first time in 2021

  • Impact of 1 Samuel 8 on understanding government and allegiance

(26:37) Lessons from Biblical Parables

  • Parable of the laborers in the vineyard

  • Softening judgmental attitudes towards others

(38:55) Transformation and New Perspective

  • Rejecting political "teams" and embracing fellow humanity

  • Understanding deception and seeking truth in Jesus

(41:16) Secular Awakening

  • Questioning public school system and government education

  • Rethinking the Pledge of Allegiance and national identity

(52:48) Comfort and Government Dependence

  • Discussion on people's reluctance to let go of government "care"

  • Critique of 24-hour news cycles and political polarization

(56:13) Both Sides of Politics

  • Realizing similarities between political parties

  • Marketing different brands of politics to divided populace

(59:04) Conclusion and Podcast Information

  • Introduction to Patrick's new podcast: 100 Fold Testimonies

  • Call for listeners to share their Christian testimonies


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107. Psychedelic Christianity: Mystic Medicine & Jesus

About this Episode

Craig is joined by Ivan Soto, as we venture into the compelling and controversial territory where Christianity, anarchy, and psychedelics intersect. Listen in as Ivan recounts his personal experiences with these powerful substances, discussing their sacred nature and how they've impacted his spiritual journey. We tackle the tough questions about the role of psychedelics in cognitive enhancement and spiritual awakening, all while examining the risks and misconceptions that come with their use.

Venture with us through the spiritual and emotional landscapes that psychedelics can unlock. We ponder the government's role in regulating these substances and the societal stigmas attached to them. From the debated connection to witchcraft to their legal status, we don't shy away from the tough discussions. Discover why an open dialogue about these substances is crucial within the Christian community and what it means to engage with psychedelics responsibly.

Finally, we explore the transformative potential of psychedelics for personal growth and healing. Reflect with us on how these experiences can offer profound insights into our own psyches, sometimes through challenging "bad trips" that ultimately lead to personal development. Ivan and I consider the potential for psychedelics to be a tool in coping with life's hardships and the intriguing idea of achieving enlightened Christianity. Tune in as we also examine the broader spectrum of spiritual knowledge, questioning whether the Bible is the sole source of divine inspiration or if other experiences, like those with psychedelics, can provide a path to understanding.

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Episode Timestamps:

Timestamps:

01:02 Introduction: Exploring Psychedelics and Christianity

  • Ivan Soto opens the discussion with his personal journey with psychedelics.

  • The sacred nature of psychedelics is recognized.

02:00 The Double-Edged Sword of Psychedelics

  • Ivan underlines the fact that psychedelics aren't suitable for everyone.

  • Importance of understanding individual mental health when considering psychedelic use.

06:00 Stigmas Surrounding Psychedelics

  • Discusses the societal stigmas and misconceptions about substances like marijuana.

  • The damaging effects of misinformation on the perception of these substances.

09:16 Exploring Psychedelics and Spirituality

  • Discussion on the potential of psychedelics for inducing humbling experiences.

  • A reminder that not everyone is suited for these experiences.

11:00 Government Regulations and Psychedelics

  • A critique the government's role in regulating these substances.

  • Historical association of psychedelics with witchcraft.

12:00 The Christian Perspective on Psychedelics

  • Ivan calls for open Christian dialogue on the topic of psychedelics.

13:01 Debunking Misconceptions About Witchcraft

  • Discusses misconceptions about witchcraft and its overlap with prayer and reality manipulation.

17:00 Psychedelics as Tools for Spiritual Insight

  • The use of psychedelics for gaining spiritual insights.

  • Drawing parallels between religious figures and psychedelic users.

20:00 The Cultural Significance of Psychedelics

  • Exploring the cultural significance of substances like the Amanita muscaria mushroom.

22:54 The Therapeutic Potential of Psychedelics

  • The healing potential of psychedelics for emotional and cognitive issues.

27:45 Importance of Set and Setting in Psychedelic Use

  • The significance of environment and mindset when using psychedelics.

  • Personal insights on the experiences with MDMA and LSD.

30:00 Using Psychedelics for Personal Growth

  • The role of intention in using psychedelics for personal growth.

32:26 The Dark Side of Psychedelics: Bad Trips

  • Discusses "bad trips" as opportunities for personal insight and psychological understanding.

34:00 Recreational vs Therapeutic Use of Psychedelics

  • Highlights the differences between recreational and therapeutic use of psychedelics.

35:00 Psychedelics for Depression and Grief

  • Psychedelics as potential aids for coping with depression and grief.

35:09 Spiritual Enlightenment: Scripture vs Psychedelics

  • The debate on attaining spiritual enlightenment through scripture vs. psychedelic experiences.

40:00 The Role of the Holy Spirit in Guiding Truth

  • The Spirit's role as a guide to truth.

  • Early church writings enhancing understanding of the Bible.

43:00 Beyond the Bible: Other Sources of Divine Inspiration

  • Questioning the Bible as the sole source of divine inspiration.

  • Introduction to the concept of 'apocatastasis'.


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