163. Faith, Politics, & the War Within: Allegiance, Grace & Addiction with Josif Wright

What happens when the beliefs we were handed no longer look like Jesus?

Maybe we were taught that America was God’s special nation. Maybe we were told that supporting war was patriotic, voting was a Christian duty, and questioning a pastor showed weak faith. Then one day, we opened the Gospels and noticed something strange: Jesus did not sound much like the system built in His name.

Josif Wright knows that feeling. He is a public-school teacher, longtime coach, hospice chaplain, former youth minister, and church speaker. He has spent years helping young people think, grieving with families, and asking hard questions about what Christians have been taught. He is also the author of The War Within: My Story, a father’s account of his son Ryan’s long struggle with addiction.

At first, Christian nationalism and addiction may sound like two separate subjects. Yet the same thread runs through both parts of this conversation: our desire to control people.

The state controls through laws, fear, taxes, borders, and violence. Religious leaders may control through shame and claims of unquestionable authority. Families facing addiction may try to control a loved one because they are scared to death of losing them.

But Jesus shows us another way. Truth without coercion. Grace without denial. Love that stays close without trying to play God.

“Don’t Trust the Government and Be Kind to People”

Josif teaches Jobs for America’s Graduates, or JAG. There is a curriculum, but no single textbook. That gives him room to discuss work, current events, faith, and life with his students.

After one test, Josif asked his class what they had learned so far. One senior wrote:

“Don’t trust the government and be kind to people.” — Student response, around 04:25

That is a pretty strong report card.

The line is funny, but it also gets close to the heart of this episode. Government asks us to believe that force will keep us safe. Jesus asks us to love our neighbors. Empire teaches suspicion. Christ teaches mercy.

Josif’s classroom sometimes turns into a kind of group therapy session. His students ask why people are being bombed. They question the stories adults have handed them. Josif does not demand that they copy his answers. He wants them to think.

That may be one of the most loving things a teacher, or a pastor, can do.

When Questions Become an Act of Faith

Josif’s change did not happen in one dramatic moment. One question led to another.

He began looking again at teachings about tithing, women in ministry, Israel, government, and Romans 13. The more he studied, the more he wondered how much of his old certainty had come from Scripture and how much had come from people with microphones.

He now tells both his students and his church congregation to do their own research. Do not accept a claim just because it comes from a pulpit, a podcast, or a person with a title.

“God wants us to think and ask questions,” Josif says.

God can handle those questions. The harder question may be whether we can handle the answers.

Real faith does not need us to hide from truth. It does not fall apart when we examine it. Sometimes asking better questions is how we clear away the rubble and find Jesus again.

God Is Pro-People

The hardest part of Christian nationalism may be the way it divides human beings into teams.

We are told that one nation is righteous, another nation is evil, and the people living under each flag somehow inherit those labels. Once we accept that story, violence becomes easy to excuse. Dead children become “collateral damage.” Grieving parents become members of the wrong group.

Josif offers a simpler answer:

“I’m not pro-Israel, pro-Palestine. I think God is pro-people.” — 08:30

That does not erase history or pain. It does not mean every action is good. It means every person remains an image-bearer.

No modern nation-state gets a blank check from Jesus. The command to love does not stop at a border. Christ does not ask for our enemy’s passport before telling us to pray for them.

As Josif later says, we are called to love people “no matter who they are.”

The Flag Beside the Cross

Josif remembers churches where people stood, faced the American flag, and pledged their allegiance during worship. At the time, it felt normal.

That is how idols often work. They do not walk into the sanctuary wearing devil horns. They arrive wrapped in tradition.

Josif now sees the conflict clearly:

“We should be pledging allegiance to the King—to King Jesus—and not to a flag.” — 22:42

The Pledge of Allegiance is not only a promise to a piece of cloth. It is a promise to “the republic for which it stands.” That raises a question Christians cannot avoid: can our highest allegiance belong to both Jesus and an empire?

Jesus said we cannot serve two masters.

This does not require hatred for our neighbors, veterans, or the land where we live. Josif speaks with care about those who returned from war with lost limbs, trauma, homelessness, or despair. His concern is not contempt for people. It is the worship of the machine that used them.

“No King but Christ” means what it says. No president, nation, pastor, party, or flag gets the loyalty that belongs to Jesus.

When Pastors “Call the Shots”

Josif’s questions also led him to challenge church authority built on fear.

He remembers pastors saying things such as, “Don’t challenge me,” and, “I call the shots.” But that is not the leadership Jesus modeled. Jesus knelt. Jesus washed feet. Jesus warned His disciples not to rule like the kings of the nations.

Josif no longer stands behind a pulpit when he speaks. He comes down to the same level as the people in the room. The movement is small, but the message is clear: we are learning together.

Religious control and state control often speak the same language. Both demand submission. Both punish questions. Both build systems that benefit the people at the top.

Josif believes much of this is fear-based. Fear of punishment. Fear of disorder. Fear that everything will collapse unless a strong leader takes control.

But Christians already have a King. We do not need to manufacture another one.

Walking Away from Political Salvation

Josif once considered running for local office. He voted because that was what responsible Christians were expected to do. He even heard pastors suggest that a person was not a real Christian unless they voted.

Today, his view is different.

He no longer expects the political system to bring the Kingdom of God. He has watched systems change people more often than people change systems. Craig makes the point plainly: being “the light of the world” does not mean ruling over our neighbors.

Light looks like enemy-love. It looks like feeding people, telling the truth, forgiving, serving, and refusing to repay evil with evil.

We do not become more Christlike by gaining the legal power to force people to behave as we wish. Jesus changes hearts through invitation, truth, sacrifice, and love, not through a ballot-backed threat.

The Other War Within

Around the middle of the episode, the conversation shifts. The flag gives way to a father’s journal. Political control gives way to the helplessness of watching someone you love suffer.

Josif’s son Ryan dealt with childhood migraines and chronic pain. Pills were available. Pain relief slowly became something else. Feelings of being unloved, painful losses, broken trust, and the death of his grandmother added to the weight.

Josif wrote The War Within from a parent’s point of view. He did not want to write it at first. Returning to old journal pages brought the fear and grief back to life. Yet writing also became part of his healing.

For years, addiction shaped the whole family. Josif and his wife described their condition in medical terms. Sometimes they were stable. Sometimes critical. Sometimes on life support.

“I had a knot in my stomach for a decade,” Josif says. “Addiction is a beast.”

Love Cannot Force Someone Free

Families dealing with addiction know the terrible urge to fix everything.

Find the right rehab. Make the right phone call. Drive another three hours. Say the right prayer. Watch more closely. Try harder.

Josif drove across the state again and again during one terrible month. Ryan told him, “The hooks are in so deep. I don’t know how I’m going to get out of this.”

Then someone at a church service offered Josif a hard word:

“You’re trying too hard. You’re trying to control the situation. Just step back. Just let God be God.” — 44:05

Letting go did not mean Josif stopped loving Ryan. It meant admitting that a father could not become his son’s savior.

Three days later, Ryan called and asked Josif to come get him. Recovery was not smooth or simple. There were setbacks. There was detox, long treatment, reading, faith, and a slow rebuilding of life. Josif says Ryan had been clean for eight years at the time of the recording.

The story is not a formula. Every person and every recovery path is different. It is a witness to grace that kept showing up.

More Than a Label

Josif challenges the shame often placed on people with addictions.

Churches may call people dirty, hopeless, or permanently defined by the worst part of their lives. Josif points instead to the New Testament language of new creation, saints, and a royal priesthood.

That does not mean pretending harm never happened. Grace tells the truth. But grace also refuses to reduce a human being to a label.

Craig connects this to his brother TJ, who died after struggling with alcohol and depression. TJ was not a bad person. He was a peaceful man who carried pain and could not find a way out.

The stories of Ryan and TJ remind us that addiction touches more than one body. It reaches parents, siblings, spouses, children, and friends. Yet shame does not heal anyone.

Love may not control the outcome, but it can keep the door open.

“God Just Calls Us to Love”

Near the end, Josif talks about the people he has met in treatment centers and recovery spaces.

“They are wonderful people,” he says.

Addiction can lead people to say and do awful things. Families need boundaries. Harm should not be denied. But the addiction is not the whole person.

Josif remembers hearing someone use cruel terms for people struggling with drugs. After she read his book, her language changed.

“We’re all struggling with something… God doesn’t call us to judge. He just calls us to love.” — 54:40

There is the thread connecting both halves of this episode.

Christian nationalism looks at enemies and asks how the state can control them. Religious legalism looks at sinners and asks how the church can shame them. Fearful families may look at addiction and ask how they can force someone to change.

Jesus meets people without turning them into projects.

He tells the truth. He protects the wounded. He resists coercion. He loves without pretending. He lays down His own life rather than taking someone else’s.

Flags demand allegiance. Shame demands hiding. Jesus invites us into truth, freedom, mercy, and love. That is the Kingdom.

🤝Connect with Josif🤝

• Book: The War Within: My Story at Barnes & Noble & Amazon

• Email: thewarwithinmystory@gmail.com

• Instagram: @Josifwright 

• X: @Josifwright 

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Highlights & Takeaways

• Questioning inherited teaching can be an act of faith, not rebellion.

• No modern nation deserves unconditional Christian loyalty or support.

• A flag in a sanctuary can quietly teach divided allegiance.

• “Be the light” means loving and serving people—not gaining power over them.

• Fear-based pastors often mirror the control methods of the state.

• Addiction affects entire families, and recovery cannot be forced from the outside.

• People struggling with addiction are still image-bearers, not insults or labels.

• Grace tells the truth while refusing to abandon the person.

Listen

Notice where Josif’s political awakening and his family’s addiction story overlap. Listen for the moments when control fails and mercy begins.

Reflect

Where has fear shaped your faith? Have you placed more hope in a political leader, pastor, program, or personal plan than in the patient way of Jesus?

Read

Read Matthew 5:43–48, Galatians 3:26–29, John 18:33–38, and 2 Corinthians 5:17. Ask what these passages say about enemies, identity, nations, and new creation.

Practice

Sit with someone who is struggling without trying to fix them in the first five minutes. Listen, learn their story, and offer one form of help they are willing to receive.

Episode Breakdown:

(00:00) Leaving Christian nationalism

• Josif Wright’s changing beliefs

• The War Within: My Story

• Craig’s connection through TJ

(02:42) Meet Josif Wright

• Public-school educator and coach

• Hospice chaplain and church speaker

• Rare-disease advocacy

(04:20) “Don’t trust the government and be kind”

• JAG classroom lessons

• Student questions about war

• Thinking beyond the curriculum

(07:02) Questioning old church teaching

• Doing your own research

• Pastors and microphones

• Tithing, ministry, and inherited claims

(08:30) God is pro-people

• Israel and Palestine

• Galatians and human identity

• Love beyond political teams

(11:22) Nation-state Israel and Christian nationalism

• Biblical Israel vs. modern government

• Allegiance to Jesus

• Violence without a Kingdom blank check

(16:19) Josif’s slow change of mind

• No single conversion moment

• Five years of deep rethinking

• Regret without hiding

(19:14) Digging deeper into Scripture

• Original-language study

• Romans 13 questions

• The Bible beyond American assumptions

(21:40) Legalism, flags, and fear

• National symbols in worship

• Authoritarian pastors

• Submission benefiting institutions

(25:18) Two masters and the pledge

• Allegiance to the republic

• Craig’s personal conviction

• Flag beside the cross

(27:37) Students who will not stand

• Classroom Pledge of Allegiance

• Respect without forced participation

• Younger people questioning nationalism

(29:10) Voting and political identity

• “Real Christians vote”

• Leaving party categories

• Josif’s changing civic habits

(33:17) Being light without ruling

• Neighbor-love and enemy-love

• Political office and coercion

• Trust in Christ beyond collapsing systems

(34:53) Introducing The War Within

• Ryan’s decade-long addiction

• Craig’s memories of TJ

• Grief as shared ground

(36:10) Writing from a father’s view

• Journals and painful memories

• Ryan’s permission

• Writing as therapy

(37:10) Pain beneath addiction

• Childhood migraines

• Pills and chronic pain

• Loss, loneliness, and grief

(40:00) A family on life support

• Years of fear

• Multiple treatment programs

• Limits of short-term fixes

(42:35) “The hooks are in so deep”

• December 2016

• Repeated drives to help Ryan

• Belief, struggle, and grace

(44:05) Letting God be God

• Releasing control

• Prayer across states and nations

• Trust without clear answers

(45:00) “Come get me”

• Leaving the heroin house

• Home detox

• A new opening

(46:00) Building a life after addiction

• Reading and new interests

• Setbacks without surrender

• Finding the next step

(47:10) Eight years and a new identity

• Recovery and freedom

• New-creation language

• Saints instead of shame

(51:00) Craig remembers TJ

• Depression and alcohol

• COVID-era isolation

• Limits of family control

(53:40) Changing how churches speak

• People beyond their addiction

• Cruel labels challenged

• Love where people are

(55:56) Where to find Josif

• Book retailers

• Social media and email

• Free copies for people in need

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149. Is Your Christianity Just Patriotism? Learning to Love Beyond the Flag with Misty Hubbard

There’s a version of Christianity that never really meets Jesus.
It memorizes the pledge, knows all the right political buzzwords, and can quote more politicians than church fathers. It says “Christ is King” on Sunday and “vote harder” on Monday, as if Caesar just needs a better campaign manager.

That was the air Craig and Misty both breathed for years.

They organized rallies, cheered on “good candidates,” defended the Constitution like it had been handed down on Sinai. It felt righteous. It felt Christian. It felt like fighting the good fight, until Jesus started messing with their loyalties.

This episode is the story of waking up from that spell.

Not into apathy or cynicism, but into something weirder and older: a Kingdom where the Sermon on the Mount is more binding than the Bill of Rights, and where the question isn’t “How do we save America?” but “How do we love our enemies like Christ?”

When the Flag Becomes Your Faith

Misty didn’t stumble into politics by accident. She’s a wife, mom, grandma, and restaurant manager in Arkansas, the kind of person who knows everyone at the grocery store and cares deeply about her town. For years, that care took the shape of activism: gun-rights events, local organizing, being “all in” for Team Red.

Craig remembers meeting her back then, at a Chris Ann Hall convention in Clarksville. Both of them were learning about the Constitution, the Founders, the history they never got in school. It was exciting. It felt like discovering hidden truth. And over time, that civics education started to feel a lot like discipleship.

The problem? The more energy went into “saving the country,” the less energy was left for the actual living out of the things Jesus says about enemies, violence, and power. It’s not that patriotism and faith can’t coexist, but if you’re honest, one usually ends up calling the shots.

The Class That Broke the Spell

The turning point for Misty wasn’t a Bible study. It was a civics class.

She signed up as a die-hard constitutional conservative ready to nod along. Instead, the teacher, friend of the project, Mike Gaddy, started pulling at threads: the myths about the founding, the sanitized hero stories, the idea that United States was uniquely holy.

Misty left that first session furious. She went home with a notebook full of quotes, determined to disprove him. She cracked open books, dug into history, chased footnotes… and found out the uncomfortable thing: he wasn’t lying. The founding was messier than the church bumper stickers made it sound.

One question stuck in her ribs: “When have you ever voted yourself more free?”

She thought about politicians she’d worked for who sold out the second they got in office. She thought about all the cheering for “freedom” while bombs fell on people who’d never heard of her. Slowly, painfully, she realized her “Christian” activism had quietly become devotion to the state.

When Compassion Outgrows Your Patriotism

Craig went through his own version of that. Looking back at his old voting record, neoconservative almost every time, he feels a weight. Not because voting is the worst sin ever, but because those choices empowered real people to wage real wars on real families. Once Jesus taught him to see beyond the labels, he couldn’t shrug it off as “just politics” anymore.

That’s the strange side effect of taking “No King but Christ” seriously: your compassion gets bigger than your borders. Suddenly you can’t hear about drone strikes, refugee camps, or kids in cages without thinking, Those are my neighbors too.

Misty admits she used to be the one cheering for the war, as long as the “bad guys” were far away. Now she sees faces instead of flags. The same Jesus who told her to love her literal neighbor is also Lord over the moms and dads in countries she’ll never visit. Once that sinks in, a certain kind of patriotic chest-thumping starts to feel… off.

Rage-Posting in Jesus’ Name

Then there’s the internet.

If you’ve spent any time on Facebook, you’ve met this guy: profile full of Bible verses and worship songs… and also full of posts calling people “demon-crats,” fantasizing about political dynasties, and mocking “woke queer trash” or whatever today’s latest slur is.

Misty watches one of these men in her feed whiplash between “I love Jesus so much” and “if you don’t like it, delete me, you idiots.” She finally comments, not to dunk on him, but to say: “You’re not just pushing people away from your politics. You’re pushing them away from Christianity.”

And that’s the heartbreak. People like her coworker, who told Misty, “I just wish all Christians were like you,” aren’t rejecting the real Jesus. They’re rejecting a Jesus-shaped mask worn over cruelty, contempt, and tribal rage.

Craig points out the obvious but rarely-said thing: if someone only knows Christians like that, of course they want nothing to do with our faith. Why would they? The fruit is rotten.

Taking It Offline

One of the most practical parts of this conversation is embarrassingly simple: take it offline.

If you’re going to challenge someone you know, about their politics, their rhetoric, their discipleship, do it face to face if you can.

Tone is different when you’re sitting across from a human you share a town and a table with. You can see their expression, hear their hesitation, notice when they’re actually trying to be loving but clumsy. On Facebook, all you see is words and your own projection of malice.

Misty and Craig have both seen it over and over: online, people are ready to torch each other. In person, they’re softer, more open, more aware that the other person has a story too. If “No King but Christ” is going to mean anything in our politics, it’ll show up in those small, awkward, holy in-person conversations.

Little Kingdom Cells in Arkansas

Out of all this wrestling, Misty has quietly started something small in Russellville, a little circle of younger folks trying to figure out what it means to follow Jesus instead of party platforms. Just a group of people who gather to read Scripture, wrestle with current events, and ask, “Would Jesus really be okay with this?”

They practice disagreeing without dehumanizing. They experiment with actually blessing enemies instead of owning them.

It doesn’t look like much. But neither did twelve confused disciples in Galilee.

Kingdom seeds are being scattered.

Listen & Reflect

• Listen: Pay close attention when Misty talks about the class that made her angry. What would you have done with that information?

• Ask: Where has your “Christian” identity quietly fused with your national or political identity?

• Confess: Is there anyone you’ve treated like trash in Jesus’ name that you need to repent to?

• Practice: Pick one person you strongly disagree with and invite them to coffee. Ask more questions than you make statements.

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Episode Timestamps:

(00:00) From statism to “No King but Jesus”

• Craig welcomes Misty and sets the theme: deeper faith, deeper compassion.

(00:05) Meet Misty: Arkansas, restaurant, and kindness over hate

• Misty introduces herself as an Arkansas restaurant manager, wife, mom, and grandma.

• She jokes about “Go Hogs” and the pain of that as a sports fan.

• She explains that her goal is to spread the message through kindness, not hate.

• Craig riffs on how Facebook trains people to act the opposite of Jesus online.

(01:22) The Chris Ann Hall rally and early constitutional days

• Craig and Misty remember meeting at a “Second Amendment” rally in Clarksville.

• They were both learning new things about the founding and the Constitution.

• Craig notes that the teacher helped him understand civics but stayed deeply statist.

• Misty mentions organizing that event as part of a local gun group and later politicians.

(12:29) “Good candidates” and the lost cause of electoral politics

• Craig and Misty talk about candidates who stop caring once they’re in office.

• Misty calls trying to get “good people” elected a lost cause.

• Craig pushes back on the idea that not voting means “doing nothing.”

• They argue that handing more authority to rulers isn’t the same as loving neighbors.

(14:24) Owning neocon votes and paid patriotism

• Craig admits he voted for neoconservatives almost every time and feels responsibility for what those politicians did.

• Misty describes “paid patriotism:” the millions spent to keep people flag-waving.

• They call out propaganda around the anthem, sports, and outrage over who stands or kneels.

• The conversation exposes how manipulated our sense of “duty” often is.

(15:31) “Vote harder” and the salsa break

• Misty notes how division is stirred up so we’ll “vote harder” for our team.

• Craig jokes about needing to hold your mouth just right in the voting booth.

• The Bad Roman salsa jingle kicks in, inviting listeners to support the show instead of the state.

• They come back from the break still poking at the myth that voting is the highest form of action.

(16:25) The class that wrecked Misty’s civic religion

• Craig walks Misty through how, after her event organizing, she met Mike Gaddy.

• Her first class with him made her furious as a constitutional conservative.

• She went home, took notes, and researched to try to prove him wrong.

• Instead she confirmed that the founding was ugly and we’d been sold a myth.

(18:00) When have you ever voted yourself more free?

• Misty recalls Gaddy’’s question about whether we’ve ever “voted ourselves more free.”

• They wrestle with the claim that soldiers are “over there fighting for our freedom.”

• Craig and Misty ask what our “freedom” was doing in Somalia while bombs fell on children.

• They connect this to a broader realization that empire and Kingdom serve different masters.

(39:29) None of us were born anarchists

• Craig notes that most anarchists he knows started out statist, just like him and Misty.

• They mention friends like Gaddy whose stories include serious regret.

• Misty laughs about her Facebook memories reminding her how statist she used to be.

• Craig jokes about “accidentally” losing access to his old account and starting fresh.

(47:40) Compassion that outgrows the flag

• Craig says that taking “No King but Jesus” seriously changed how he views war and cages at the border.

• Misty admits she used to cheer for war and “get the bad guys at all costs.”

• Now she sees people in other nations as God’s children too, not faceless enemies.

(52:16) A daily Jesus lesson at work

• Misty talks about a coworker who didn’t believe at all but loved their daily conversations.

• The coworker told her, “I just wish all Christians were like you.”

• Misty compares fake Christians to people wearing a Lakers jersey without playing for the Lakers.

• She says Jesus teaches and shows you to treat people with kindness, not contempt.

(55:48) “Founded on Christian values?” vs cursing your enemies

• Craig reads a meme fantasizing about a decades-long MAGA dynasty and calling opponents vile names.

• He asks how anyone can say “we’re founded on Christian values” while talking like that.

• Misty says this kind of faking pushes people like her unbelieving friend away.

(57:04) You’re pushing people away from Christianity (not just politics)

• Misty shares another post where the same guy curses “demon-crats” and tells him to delete him.

• Someone tells him he’s pushing people away from Christian conservative Republicans.

• Misty comments that he’s pushing people away from Christianity, period.

• They both highlight how the same feed includes sweet Jesus posts right after hateful rants.

(58:00) Take it offline: Face-to-face hits different

• Craig asks if Misty knows the guy personally and encourages her to talk with him in person.

• He notes that tone is completely different face to face than on Facebook.

• Misty says if you perceive a comment as snarky online, it’s snarky, whether it was meant that way or not.

• Seeing someone’s face makes it clear when they’re trying to be loving, not hateful.

(59:10) The solution: Be more like Jesus

• Craig directly asks Misty what the solution is to Christians entangled with the state.

• She says it plainly: be more like Jesus as best we can.

• Treat people the way Jesus would, especially those you disagree with.

• They agree that this is how you actually win people over and introduce them to Christ.

(1:04:12) Misty’s local Russellville group

• Misty describes a small, unofficial local group she’s started with younger folks.

• They share Jesus’ teachings and plug them into current events like the Charlie Kirk story.

• She pushes members to ask if they’re taking verses out of context or truly following Jesus.

(1:08:08) Stepping back from social media and cat memes

• Craig talks about unplugging from social media after some heavy events like the Kurt murder.

• He reminds folks that what they heard is a snapshot of his and Misty’s usual conversations.

• Misty jokes about posting cat memes with Craig’s face, and Craig embraces being the “crazy cat lady.”

Highlights & Takeaways

• The more seriously Craig and Misty take Jesus, the more compassion they feel for people their teams used to call enemies.

• “When have you ever voted yourself more free?” became a crucial question in leaving statism.

• Paid patriotism and propaganda keep people outraged, divided, and committed to “voting harder.”

• Social media rants about “demon rats” and “woke” enemies push people away from Christianity, not toward it.

• Face-to-face conversations reveal tone and care in ways Facebook never can.

• Ordinary kindness at work—a daily Jesus lesson—can open hearts more than any argument.

• Local, informal groups like Misty’s in Russellville help people work out what “Christ is King” really means in practice.

• 100% of donations beyond production costs go to Memphis-area charities, keeping the project rooted in real-world love of neighbor.

Calls to Action

If this episode helped disentangle your faith from the state and grow your compassion, share it with someone still stuck in “vote harder” mode.

If you want to help keep the message of No King but Christ in people’s feeds, visit Spotfund and search “No King but Christ.” Even five or ten bucks a month helps keep the show going and supports local Memphis charities beyond production costs.

If you’re near Russellville, Arkansas and want to dive into these conversations in person, find Misty Hubbard via the Bad Roman Facebook page and ask about her group.

Love y’all.

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