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101. Mormon Teachings and Anarchy: Uncovering the Path to Freedom

When Casey Beres walked away from the Mormon Church, he didn't just leave behind a congregation; he discovered a tapestry of anarchy and voluntaryism hidden within its teachings. In this profound discussion, we find unexpected solidarity with anarchist thought, as Casey unveils how the Book of Mormon's scriptures and doctrines mirror the principles of societal autonomy and individual freedom. Our exchange traverses religious and ideological frontiers, inviting both Mormons and non-Mormons to embrace the underlying values that bind us together as a global family. 

The conversation shifts as we contemplate the personal changes spurred by political disillusionment and debates over the constitution, intensified by the pandemic. As we consider the emotional impact of mandates on both individuals and communities, we delve into the debris of societal pressures. In doing so, we discover a widespread desire for a support network and a community that values individual choice, and we explore the role of authority and governance from a perspective of spiritual enlightenment, not political will.

Wrapping up, we look beyond the horizon of today's interpretations of LDS texts, questioning traditional views on government, war, and America's place in divine providence. We explore the notion of modern slavery within our own societal structures and discuss the frustrations of many modern Christians with the current state of affairs. 

We question divine providence in the American founding and probe the implications of the government's hand in modern slavery. Our quest for understanding takes us from the battlefield of American history to the heart of Christian anarchy, culminating in a call to action for the Mormon community to consider the anarchy threaded within their beliefs. Whether your interest lies in faith, freedom, or the crossroads where they meet, join us for a stimulating conversation that promises to challenge and enlighten.

Connect with the Casey Beres:

Substack: mackenziesspleen.substack.com

Bandcamp: Potbelly MacKraken

Key Moments:

00:02 Anarchy and the Book of Mormon

  • Introduction of Casey Beres to discuss anarchy in the Book of Mormon context.

  • Exploration of Casey's journey from the Mormon Church to anarchist insights.

  • Discussion on the resonance of anarchy and volunteerism with broader anarchist community.

  • Emphasis on commonalities that unite humans beyond individual beliefs.

  • Importance of open dialogue for understanding and breaking down barriers.

08:04 Churches and Conversion to Anarchy

  • Personal reflections on church, faith, and non-traditional worship.

  • Preference for intimate gatherings over structured church services.

  • Influence of anarchy on views of authority and community.

  • Disconnection felt in family-centric church settings.

  • Journey from political apathy to anarchy, inspired by figures like Ron Paul and Michael Malice.

18:27 COVID Horror Stories and Vaccine Mandates

  • Personal impact of COVID-19 mandates on an individual with Tourette syndrome.

  • Challenges of job loss and societal exclusion due to mandates.

  • Importance of support networks during challenging times.

  • Conflicts between state and federal regulations during the pandemic.

  • Reflections on varied societal and political responses to the pandemic.

25:12 Understanding the LDS Scriptural Canon

  • Exploration of anarchy in Mormon scripture, addressing misconceptions.

  • Clarification of 'D&C' and other foundational Mormon texts.

  • Examination of ancient and modern societies in Mormon scripture through an anarchistic lens.

  • Anarchistic interpretation of scriptural events like the flood.

32:13 Anarchy in the Book of Mormon

  • Inspirational similarities between the Bible, Book of Mormon, and D&C.

  • Discussion on societies transitioning to democracy and anarchy in the Book of Mormon.

  • Analysis of anarchy and voluntarism in the Book of Mormon narratives.

  • Challenges in reconciling certain D&C sections with anarchistic principles.

39:28 Government and Anarchy in LDS Scriptures

  • Examination of contradictions in Doctrine and Covenants 134 regarding government.

  • Analysis of government's role in violating individual rights despite claims of protection.

  • Discussion on the compatibility of divine endorsement with flawed human government.

  • Reflection on implications for libertarians, anarchists, and constitutional conservatives.

49:43 Beliefs on God, Constitution, and Slavery

  • Relationship between religion, nationalism, and government in LDS context.

  • Debate on divine inspiration of the U.S. Constitution and America's founding.

  • Comparison of historical chattel slavery to modern governmental control.

  • Discussion on advocating for change and the irony of 'leaving the country'.

59:30 Frustration of Modern Christians and Anarchism

  • Reflection on the U.S.'s history of conflict and personal transition in political beliefs.

  • Exploration of Christian anarchy and Jesus' teachings against hierarchical control.

  • Critique of religious and political leadership's misuse of influence.

  • Biblical perspective on authority and leadership contrary to oppressive power structures.

01:09:07 Promoting Anarchy in the Mormon Community

  • Challenges and goals in introducing anarchism to the Mormon community.

  • Engagement with influential figures and feedback from church members.

  • Importance of gradual change, personal humility, and the impact of the Bad Roman Project.

  • Encouragement for others to contribute to dialogue through various platforms.

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85. Journey to Freedom with Jared Wall

About this Episode

Jared Wall of the Best Practices podcast joins Craig for the series's latest installment, where Craig invites guests with their own podcasts to discuss their projects. Jared's podcast offers listeners interviews on expert ways to own and operate their industrial facilities and commercial properties. While they do discuss the Best Practices podcast, some of the most interesting parts of the conversation are when Jared shares his insights on starting a legal cannabis enterprise and what it is like to be an anarchist and then meeting Jesus in the gospels. Jesus' teachings were so exciting and inspirational that people dropped what they were doing and voluntarily followed him in the thousands; no wonder the Romans killed him.

The conversation begins with his journey from Republican to Libertarian Party activist, then to conceptualizing freedom as personal development, entrepreneurship, and earning wealth to become geographically free. It moves on to how he befriended anti-war activist Scott Horton and worked as a researcher on a few of his books. Jared tells about how hard it is to run a business that focuses on cannabis, as even when it is legal, it is difficult to find stable financial institutions that will work with you. Jared talks about looking for a mentor who could teach him to be a better father and unexpectedly arriving at Jesus. Then they finally discuss the Best Practices podcast content and what any would-be listeners can expect from it.

Connect with Jared:

wall.jared@gmail.com

Best Practices Podcast

Episode Timestamps:

1:35 – Who is Jared Wall?

  • Works in energy efficiency

  • Supported Ron Paul 2012

    • Got into libertarian activism

  • Tried to get a Republican candidate on the ticket

    • The Republican Party took them to court

      • Decided the Republican Party was a waste of time

  • Listening to Tom Woods and Mises 

    • Started thinking about entrepreneurship and personal development

  • We are not going to get freedom from begging politicians for it

    • Earn wealth and become geographically free

  • Kenyan wife

    • Want their kids to be able to spend some of their time growing up in Kenya

  • Working on side hustles is the best way to bring freedom to one's family

15:20 – Scott Horton

  • Jared is friends with Scott Horton

    • Patient with the left while holding onto his ideals

    • Reached out to him for a list of reading books and got to talk to him instead

  • Built a business around legal weed

  • Helped with Scott Horton's book Hotter than the Sun

  • The church is not anti-war

    • Never paid attention to what the presidents were doing in other countries

  • Jesus is anti-war

  • No one speaks to anti-war as well as Scott Horton

28:03 – The cannabis industry

  • Jared launched Hemp Spot in 2021

  • Banks are weary of doing business with anyone in the cannabis industry

    • Perhaps they are scared of having to fight politicians and bureaucrats in courts that they own

  • PayPal confiscated $600-$800 overnight because they don't work with people in the cannabis industry

    • Now his E-Commerce website couldn't accept payment

  • The bank did the same thing

  • Eventually found someone who could work with 'high-risk' businesses

    • But had lost their customers while down

  • Bank changed their compliance requirements which became expensive

    • Time to try something else

  • The cannabis plant is stigmatized entirely because of the state

    • In the 1800s, it was regularly used for medical purposes

    • The social stigma is being eliminated these days though

  • Cannabis grows well everywhere

  • Every part of the plant is useful

    • Can make textiles, rope, plastic, and cement out of it

  • There are a lot of vested interests that would suffer if it were widely available

  • Health benefits

  • There may be legitimate concerns about it being a gateway drug

    • But that doesn't mean the state should pass laws or lock people in jail

    • The solution is to intervene at the family or church level

42:50 – Jared's religious journey

  • Jared was forced into religious life as a child

    • He left it once he had the choice

  • He was looking for someone who could role model what being the best father looked like for him

    • His wife told him to read just the gospels

      • Found the mentor he was looking for in Jesus

  • Next stop: learn to pray

  • Jesus was so cool

    • He just walked and preached and people followed Him

    • That must have threatened the Roman government

  • Coming at the gospels with anarchist roots was great

  • Libertarians need something more; that something could be faith

  • The teachings of Christ should be exciting

53:02 – Best Practices Podcast

  • Expert ways to own and operate industrial facilities and commercial properties

  • Episodes on industrial lighting and other parts of industrial facilities

  • Episodes on asphalt and concrete repair services

  • Episodes with Chris Polk

  • Developing mutually beneficial economic relationships and opportunities is Jared's focus


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