159. Delivered from the Evil Age: The Law Paul, & Christ's Gospel with Cody Cook

Can we be made right by the law, or are we made right through Christ? That question sits at the center of this episode, but it does not stay small for long. Before long, Craig and Cody Cook are walking through Galatians, spiritual powers, Paul’s strange and beautiful logic, and the way modern Christians often ask Paul questions Paul may not have been trying to answer.

This conversation feels like standing in a doorway between two worlds. On one side is the tidy, familiar version of faith where everything is reduced to rule-keeping, categories, and being declared right. On the other side is the larger, stranger world of the New Testament, where Jesus does not simply help us behave better. He rescues us from an evil age. He breaks the grip of powers we barely know how to name. He brings us into a new family and a new creation.

Cody Cook returns to The Bad Roman Podcast to talk about his book Delivered from the Evil Age of the Present. What follows is not just a book discussion. It is a reminder that the gospel is bigger than legal formulas and deeper than online arguments. If Jesus really came to deliver us from this present evil age, then we have to ask: what are we still trying to crawl back under?

When We Ask Paul the Wrong Question

A lot of us were taught to read Paul through one main lens: law versus grace. Works versus faith. Trying hard versus trusting Jesus. There is truth in that, of course, but Cody helps slow the conversation down and ask whether that frame is too small.

He walks through the old perspective, the new perspective, and newer debates around “Paul within Judaism” and “apocalyptic Paul.” That may sound technical, but the heart of it is simple enough: are we reading Paul as if his biggest concern is personal guilt, or are we seeing that he is also talking about spiritual slavery and rescue through Christ?

That difference matters. A lot. If we reduce Paul to “How do I get forgiven?” we may miss the bigger thunderclap: Jesus has invaded a world held captive and has begun setting people free.

As Cody puts it,

 “Jesus Christ gave himself on behalf of our sins in order that he might deliver us from the evil age of the present” (20:36–20:50). 

That is not small language. That is rescue language. That is Kingdom language.

Declared Right, or Made New?

There is a line in this conversation that lands like a brick because it names something ugly in us with painful clarity: 

“We wanna be declared right. We don’t wanna be right. We don’t wanna do right” (15:08–15:12).

Ouch. But isn’t that often true?

We want the label without the surrender. We want justification without transformation. We want a religious stamp that says “approved” while still holding on to our old loves, our old fears, and our old group loyalties. We would often rather be pronounced innocent than become holy.

But union with Christ is not a loophole. It is adoption. It is new belonging. It is a move from one realm to another. Cody keeps bringing the conversation back to the idea that in Christ we become sons and daughters, not just defendants who got good legal counsel. The law had a role, but it was temporary. Christ is not merely helping us manage the old world better. He is bringing us into a new one.

Rescued from the Powers We Barely See

Cody explains why Galatians 4 matters so much. He argues that Galatians 1:3–4 gives us Paul’s main point: Jesus gave himself to deliver us from this evil age. Then Galatians 3 and 4 show what that deliverance means.

This is where the Greek word stoicheia enters the conversation. In Galatians 4, many readers know the line, “we were in slavery under the elementary principles of the world.” That English wording can make Paul sound like he is only talking about basic rules or first lessons. But Cody says the Greek word stoicheia can carry more weight than that. It can mean elements or basic parts, but it can also point to spiritual powers. His point is that Paul may be warning the Galatians not just about bad ideas, but about a deeper kind of bondage. They had once been enslaved to pagan powers, and now, in a tragic twist, they were being tempted to go back under another form of slavery.

That is one of the hardest lessons for us to learn. We can leave one kind of bondage and then gladly embrace another one because it feels cleaner, more respectable, and more religious. But if it still enslaves, it is still slavery.

How often do we do the same? We leave the chaos of the world only to kneel before nationalism, ideology, partisanship, or religious performance. We trade one chain for another and call it maturity.

A Gospel Big Enough to Break Divisions

This episode also quietly pushes against modern identity obsessions. If Christ has truly brought a new creation, then ethnic, national, and political identities are no longer first. That does not erase history or culture, but it does put them in their proper place.

The powers love divided humanity. They thrive on categories that can be weaponized. They want us to keep introducing ourselves first by tribe, class, nation, and ideology. But Paul keeps pointing somewhere else. In Christ, the old walls are not the point anymore. A new world is breaking in.

That raises a hard question: do we really want that? Or do we only want a Jesus who blesses our side and leaves our favorite lines in place?

The Law Was Never the Destination

Cody is careful here, and that matters. He does not treat the law as useless or evil. He says there is still wisdom there. We can still learn from it. But we are not under it in the same way anymore. It served a role for a time, but it was not the end of the story.

That is freeing, but it is also disorienting. We like systems we can master. We like rules we can measure. We like faith that can be managed. Christ does not always give us that kind of safety.

Instead, he gives us himself.

And that means the Christian life is less like following a checklist and more like learning how to live as adopted children in a new household. It is more relational, more demanding, more beautiful, and harder to fake.

🤝Connect with Cody Cook🤝

• Book: Delivered from the Evil Age of the Present: How Jesus Brought About a New Creation by Subverting the Powers Behind Nationalism and Ethnic Identitarianism

• Explore Cody’s Books: The Anarchist Anabaptist, The Pocket Anabaptist, Fight the Powers, What Belongs to Caesar?

• Podcast and writing: Cantus Firmus

• Libertarian Christian Institute author page

• X: @CantusFirmusCC

• Podcast: Cantus Firmus

• Website: cantus-firmus.com

• Bad Roman Episodes with Cody Cook:

• EP 89 God's Country or Jesus’s Kingdom? Navigating the Nexus of Nationalism and Faith in America

• EP 99 Navigating Revivals in Christianity with Cody Cook

• EP 128 The Anabaptist Way: Rediscovering Radical Christianity with Cody Cook

Highlights & Takeaways

• Galatians is not just about personal guilt; it is about deliverance from an evil age.

• We often want to be declared right more than we want to become holy.

• Union with Christ is not just legal language; it is family language.

• Paul’s vision is big: Christ defeats the powers that enslave humanity.

• The law had a purpose, but it was never the final destination.

• Spiritual bondage can return in respectable religious forms.

• National, ethnic, and political identities lose their highest place in Christ.

• The gospel is not self-improvement. It is rescue, adoption, and new creation.

Listen

Listen for the way Cody widens the frame. This is not only a conversation about law and grace. It is about rescue, powers, and the new creation breaking into the old one.

Reflect

What kind of Christianity feels safest to you: one that gives you clear status, or one that calls you into real change? Where are you still asking Paul smaller questions than he is answering?

Read

Read Galatians 1:3–4 and Galatians 4:1–11 slowly. Then read them again with this question in mind: what if Paul is talking about deliverance from more than personal guilt?

Practice

Name one identity you lean on too hard: political, national, denominational, or cultural. This week, hold it under the lordship of Jesus and ask what has to loosen if Christ really is your primary allegiance.

Episode Timestamps:

(0:00) Can law make us right, or only Christ?

• opening question

• Cody Cook’s new book introduced

• law, Christ, and online arguments

(1:26) Why Cody wrote this book

• Galatians 4:1–7 as the anchor essay

• revised school work

• chapters 4–6 as the key section

(4:13) Different ways people read Paul

• old perspective

• new perspective

• later debates about Paul

(9:27) Courtroom, table, and battle

• salvation in a courtroom

• salvation at the table

• salvation as conflict with the powers

(15:08) “We wanna be declared right”

• declared right vs being made right

• union with Christ

• change, not just status

(20:23) Why Galatians 4 matters

• Galatians 1:3–4 as the thesis

• rescue from the present evil age

• stoicheia and slavery

(34:13) Ordo amoris, J.D. Vance, and nation-first love

• “ordered loves”

• Christian nationalist excitement over the phrase

• Augustine, Aquinas, neighbor-love, and church history

(57:48) Athanasius, incarnation, and the defeat of evil

• On the Incarnation

• image of God, mortality, and corruption

• Jesus defeating demons and idols

(1:01:23) Christians, weapons, and the words of Jesus

• swords into plowshares

• “you can’t kill the devil with a gun or a sword”

• national identities lose their grip in Christ

(1:06:16) Where to learn more

• Libertarian Christian Institute

• Cody’s interviews there

• Nick Quint on apocalyptic Paul

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158. Conservative Politics vs. Bible Politics with Jordan Grant

There’s a moment a lot of us remember, even if we wish we didn’t.

A moment when politics stopped feeling like a hobby or a duty and started feeling like a religion. A time when we could repeat the talking points, defend the system, and call it wisdom. We were sure we were being faithful. Sure we were being responsible. Sure we were on the side of truth.

But what happens when the spell breaks?

In this episode, Craig sits down with Jordan Grant to talk about that slow, often painful unraveling. Jordan is a physician from Texas whose journey moved from conservative certainty and talk-radio formation to deep questions about authority, coercion, medicine, the church, and what it really means to follow Jesus. This isn’t a play-by-play of one man changing political labels. It’s the story of what happens when conviction gets more important than tribe, and when the words of Jesus become harder to ignore than the noise of government.

And maybe that’s the real question under this whole conversation: what if the issue isn’t that we got our politics slightly wrong? What if we trusted the wrong kind of power altogether?

When the Script Starts Writing You

Jordan’s story begins in a place many listeners will recognize. He grew up in Texas, in a Christian home, with politics more assumed than deeply examined. You’re a Christian, so of course you’re conservative. You vote Republican. You defend America. You support the system. That’s just what “our people” do.

Then 9/11 happened, and like it did for so many people, it hardened the script. Talk radio filled in the blanks. Fear gave authority a moral glow. What had once been background noise became formation. Jordan describes becoming a full-blown “cage-stage conservative,” devouring the arguments, the voices, the outrage, the confidence. Craig laughs about doing his own version of the same thing, falling asleep to Fox News and waking up angry at Democrats. Funny, until it isn’t.

That’s how propaganda often works. It doesn’t just tell us what to think. It teaches us what kind of person to become.

Reading the Bible Without the State’s Glasses

But Jordan’s shift didn’t begin with politics. It began with Scripture.

During the years between finance work and medical school, he started reading the Bible for himself. Not just hearing verses filtered through church culture, but sitting with the text and wrestling with it directly. That changed him. Not all at once. Not with a dramatic lightning bolt. But enough to make him harder to manage.

That matters. Because once a person starts reading the Bible without automatically assuming Caesar is the good guy, things get uncomfortable fast. The teachings of Jesus don’t fit neatly inside our favorite patriotic categories. Enemy-love does not help campaign strategy. “Not so among you” doesn’t sound much like winning elections.

And Jordan makes that tension plain later in the episode: “It doesn’t get any clearer than that” when Jesus says His followers are not to lord power over others the way Gentile rulers do (1:04:48).

Medical School and the Myth of the Expert

A big turning point came in medical school.

Jordan says it was there that he started seeing the deeper authoritarian instincts behind modern systems. Not just in government, but in medicine too. He saw dogmatism. He saw hubris. He saw how easily people in respected institutions can begin to treat ordinary people like problems to manage rather than neighbors to love.

That part of the conversation lands hard because it isn’t really just about doctors. It’s about power. It’s about what happens when people begin to believe that expertise makes coercion righteous. Jordan says he saw firsthand the kind of mindset that quietly says, we know best, so trust us and obey.

That same mindset didn’t stay in the hospital. It spilled into the church, the culture, and the COVID years. And when churches echoed the government instead of standing against tyranny, both Jordan and Craig felt the betrayal.

Craig puts it bluntly: the church should have been the first to say, “I don’t think we will” when power tried shutting everything down. Jordan agrees: Christians pushing these kinds of tyrannies and blindly trusting “the expert” had to be called out (26:43).

The Cracks in Conservative Certainty

One of the most human parts of this episode is how familiar the old world still feels.

Jordan remembers the talk-radio years. Craig remembers the Fox years. Both of them know what it’s like to think Sean Hannity sounds profound. That’s why the conversation never turns smug. There’s no chest-thumping here, no “look how enlightened we are now.” There’s just recognition. We know how easy it is to get swept up, because we were.

And still, there’s hope.

Craig says he has more faith in younger people now, because at least many of them are asking questions. Jordan agrees that he sees a trend: people are beginning to question authority more than they used to. Not everyone. Not at the same speed. But enough to notice.

That matters, because every awakening starts with one forbidden question.

Can I Do This to My Neighbor?

Late in the episode, Jordan gives what may be the clearest summary of the whole conversation.

For people still on the fence, he says to start with principles, not pragmatism. Use this as the filter: Can I do this to my neighbor or not? If it would be evil for you to do it personally, why does it become righteous when the state does it with a flag and a larger budget?

Jordan describes using this line of thought in medical school and in everyday conversations. If he came to your house with a gun and demanded 30% of your income “for good things,” you wouldn’t call that moral. So why do we accept it when a system does it? His point is not that every hard question becomes instantly simple. His point is that principles matter more than outcomes we happen to prefer.

Or as he says, “principles trump pragmatism” (1:05:48).

That’s a deeply Christian idea, even if modern Christians often forget it.

Questioning Pastors, Churches, and the Things We Were Told Never to Touch

Jordan ends with one more challenge, and it’s a brave one.

He says Christians should be thinkers. Good thinkers. Solid thinkers. And that means it’s okay to question your pastor. It’s okay to leave a church if it’s pushing evil things. That won’t sound radical to everyone, but for people raised to equate church loyalty with obedience to God, it can feel like breaking a family curse.

Jordan isn’t encouraging rebellion for rebellion’s sake. He’s calling for conviction. If a church is teaching things that are antithetical to Christ, we do not owe it our silence.

Christian nationalism survives on borrowed trust. It counts on us being too scared to ask whether the people leading us actually sound like Jesus.

Sometimes faithfulness begins with a very simple act: refusing to pretend.

A Different Kind of Wake-Up

This conversation isn’t about becoming libertarian, anarchist, or anti-establishment as an identity. It’s about becoming honest.

Honest enough to admit that many of us once mistook certainty for wisdom.
Honest enough to admit that “Christian politics” often discipled us more than Jesus did.
Honest enough to ask whether the church has been waving the wrong banners for a very long time.

Jordan’s story reminds us that shifts like this rarely happen in a straight line. They come through reading, questioning, noticing, grieving, and slowly learning how to see our neighbor again.

Because maybe leaving the political script behind isn’t losing faith at all.

Maybe it’s the first time we’re actually starting to trust Jesus.

Highlights & Takeaways

• Many of us did not reason our way into statism; we were formed into it by fear, habit, media, and church culture.

• Reading Scripture for ourselves can expose how often we’ve filtered Jesus through patriotic assumptions.

• Authoritarianism does not only show up in government. It can appear in medicine, church life, and any system that treats people as manageable objects.

• COVID revealed how quickly many churches sided with power rather than with courage, mercy, and truth.

• Younger people asking hard questions may be one of the more hopeful signs in this cultural moment.

• “Can I do this to my neighbor?” is a powerful moral test for politics, voting, taxation, and coercion.

• Principles must matter more than pragmatism if we want to follow Jesus consistently.

• Christians should be thinkers, and that includes questioning pastors, churches, and traditions that defend what Christ would never command.

Listen

Listen for the way Jordan describes his shift not as a trendy political reinvention, but as a long collision between principle, Scripture, and lived experience.

Reflect

Where have we accepted coercion from the state that we would condemn in our own personal lives?

Read

Read Matthew 20:25–28 and ask whether our political instincts actually fit Jesus’ words: “Not so among you.”

Practice

Pick one belief you have about politics, voting, or authority and run it through this question all week: Can I do this to my neighbor in good conscience?

Episode Timestamps:

(0:00) Jordan Grant joins the show

• Craig introduces Jordan

• paradigm shift in faith and politics

• social media connection becomes podcast conversation

(4:35) Jordan’s background: Texas, finance, medicine, and faith

• small-town Texas upbringing

• finance degree, hated the cubicle life

• pre-med years become spiritual turning point

(8:38) 9/11, Bush-era politics, and the conservative script

• Christian = conservative assumption

• post-9/11 political awakening

• Republican identity without much examination

(10:46) Talk radio formation and becoming a “cage-stage conservative”

• devouring radio and pundit logic

• Sean Hannity talking points

• outrage as discipleship

(13:25) Younger people, military disillusionment, and questioning authority

• Craig’s hope in the younger generation

• refusing to die for empire

• asking questions older generations often avoid

(17:53) Medicine, the state, and forced trust

• medicine/state crossover

• losing trust in institutional authority

• coercion as a warning sign

(18:28) Medical school and the authoritarian mindset

• dogmatism in professional culture

• private contempt for “normies”

• expert culture and hubris

(19:30) Authoritarian systems inside modern medicine

• Rockefeller-era legacy

• approved knowledge vs. “quack” labels

• power holders deciding how people must live

(26:43) COVID, church shutdowns, and Christian compliance

• church entanglement with the state

• outrage at Christian silence

• ICE, experts, and pushing tyranny

(28:37) Reformed theology, Romans 13, and civil magistrate thinking

• Bible reading gets serious

• attraction to “intellectual” theology

• proof-texting for power

(40:14) Ron Paul, conviction, and the church’s blind spots

• justice, mercy, widow, orphan

• Christians booing what should convict them

• voting as legitimizing tyranny

(57:47) Wrestling with Scripture, certainty, and honest questions

• questioning inherited assumptions

• Jesus’ words as the clearest anchor

• letting hard questions stay hard

(1:04:48) “Not so among you”

• Jesus rejects lordship politics

• Matthew 20 as political confrontation

• the Kingdom not built on domination

(1:05:48) Practical advice for fence-sitters

• principles over pragmatism

• “Can I do this to my neighbor?”

• moral consistency as the filter

(1:08:20) Christians should be thinkers

• question your pastor

• leave churches pushing evil

• conviction over belonging

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129. Patriot or Saint with Brandon Kroll

About this Episode

Unveiling the Hidden: How Occult Practices Shape Our World and Faith

Ever wondered why the world seems increasingly chaotic? Why traditional Christian values appear to be eroding? Brandon Kroll, host of the Manna Daily Podcast, joins us to peel back the layers of our reality and expose the hidden forces at play. This eye-opening conversation challenges everything you thought you knew about faith, government, and the occult.

A Journey Beyond the Surface

Brandon's path to uncovering hidden truths began early. As a contrarian by nature, he always questioned the status quo: "I've always been very much the contrarian. I've always been somebody that's like, okay, that's cute, but what else is missing in this history book?"

This curiosity led him to explore topics often overlooked or dismissed by mainstream Christianity. From the Book of Enoch to the alien question, Brandon delved into areas many consider taboo.

But why venture into such controversial territory? Brandon explains: "What I'm trying to do is put myself out there, go behind enemy lines, acquire intel so that we better understand our Bibles, and we better understand the world that's at large."

The Kabbalah Connection

One of the most startling revelations Brandon shares is the pervasive influence of Kabbalah in our world. Far from being an obscure Jewish mystical tradition, Kabbalah's tenets have seeped into many aspects of modern life – including Christianity.

Brandon breaks it down:"Kabbalah is already saying, love the things of this world, earth and eternity. That's fine. God and government, okay, Christ and country, perfect. Scripture and science, you got it. But if you try to say, no government, that's a problem."

This blending of spiritual and worldly power is at the heart of many issues we face today. It's a subtle deception that's led many Christians astray without them even realizing it.

The Government-Occult Nexus

If you've ever wondered about the connection between government and occult practices, you're not alone. Brandon provides compelling evidence of this link: "Ephesians 6:12 with the Geneva Bible... It says, 'for we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, and against worldly governors... against spiritual wickedness, which are in high places.'"

Interestingly, the phrase "worldly governors" was removed in the King James Version. This omission speaks volumes about the potential manipulation of scripture to serve political ends.

Rethinking Our Approach to Faith

Brandon's insights challenge us to reconsider how we approach our faith and engage with the world. He emphasizes the importance of personal study and discernment: "Don't just listen to the holy man that tells you what it says... Make it personal."

This call to individual responsibility echoes throughout our conversation. It's a reminder that true faith isn't about blindly following traditions or earthly authorities, but about seeking a genuine connection with the divine.

Practical Steps for Awakening

So how can we apply these revelations to our lives? Brandon offers several actionable strategies:

1. Question everything, especially long-held beliefs and traditions.

2. Study scripture in its original context, looking beyond modern translations.

3. Be aware of the subtle ways worldly philosophies can infiltrate our faith.

4. Focus on living out the basic tenets of Christianity rather than getting caught up in denominational disputes.

5. Recognize the difference between being a "patriot" and a "saint" – you can't serve two masters.

What We Learned About Hidden Influences

This conversation with Brandon Kroll opens our eyes to the unseen forces shaping our world and faith. It challenges us to:

• Look beyond surface-level interpretations of scripture and world events.

• Question the motives behind governmental and religious institutions.

• Seek personal understanding rather than relying solely on authority figures.

• Recognize the subtle ways occult practices have influenced modern Christianity.

Most importantly, it reminds us that true faith isn't about conforming to worldly systems but aligning ourselves with divine truth.

Ready to dive deeper into these hidden realities? Listen to the full episode for more mind-bending insights. And remember, in a world of deception, seeking truth is more important than ever. Stay vigilant, stay curious, and most of all, stay true to your faith and don’t forget “no king but Christ.”

Connect with Brandon Kroll:

• Manna Daily Podcast Youtube

• Manna Daily Podcast Spotify

Books Refrenced:

1. Bloody Zion by Edward Hendry

2. Rulers of Evil by Tupper Saussy

3. Pagan Christianity by Frank Viola

4. New Age Versions by G.A. Riplinger

Bible Verses Referenced:

1. Matthew 15:1-11 - Discusses man-made traditions in contrast to the commandments of God.

2. Mark 7:1-13 - Refers to man-made traditions versus God's commandments.

3. 1 Corinthians 11:2 - Mentions the traditions delivered by Paul.

4. Ephesians 6:12 - "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."

5. Philippians 3:20 - "But our citizenship is in heaven, and we eagerly await a Savior from there, the Lord Jesus Christ."

6. John 18:36 - "My kingdom is not of this world."

7. 1 Samuel 8:18 - "When the day comes, you will cry out for relief from the king you have chosen, but the Lord will not answer you in that day."

8. Hosea 8:4 - "They set up kings without my consent; they choose princes without my approval."

9. Isaiah 5:20 - "Woe to those who call evil good and good evil."

10. Hosea 4:6 - "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge."

11. Genesis 6:4 - Refers to the sons of God and the Nephilim.

12. 1 John 3:1 - "Behold what manner of love the Father has bestowed on us, that we should be called children of God."

Episode Timestamps:

(1:04) Brandon's Background and Journey

• Adoption story and educational experiences

• Encounters with contrarian thinking and questioning authority

• Exploration of hidden history and occult practices

(5:57) Brandon's Political and Spiritual Evolution

• First voting experience in 2016

• Shift in perspective during 2020 elections

• Conviction about church practices during the pandemic

(13:49) Pushback and Growth in Ministry

• Experiences with criticism and audience growth

• Concept of being "over the target" in truth-telling

(17:44) The Concept of Sin and Missing the Mark

• Discussion on the meaning of sin and its relation to being on target

• From Pulpit to Podcast: Exodus from traditional church teachings in podcasts

(19:17) Traditions of Men in Scripture

• Analysis of the phrase "traditions of men" in the New Testament

• Connection to Kabbalah and occult practices

(25:19) Occult Influences in Government and Religion

• Discussion on the reality of occult practices in politics

• Recommended books for further research (see below for list)

(47:55) Bible Translations and Interpretation

• Critique of King James Version and other translations

• Importance of understanding historical context and original languages

(54:43) Living Out Biblical Basics

• Emphasis on practicing core Christian principles

• Critique of denominational divisions and political entanglements

(1:03:29) Early Church Practices and Modern Applications

• Discussion on vetting processes in early Christianity

• Implications for modern church participation

(1:05:30) Closing Thoughts and Resources

• Information on Brandon's podcast Mana Daily Podcast and where to find his work

• Invitation for future collaborations

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105. Translating the Bible – Is the Greek Right? with Duncan Palmer

About this Episode

Have you ever considered how the subtle nuances of ancient Greek can reshape our understanding of biblical scriptures? Well get ready, because in this episode Craig welcomes back Duncan Kerry Palmer to dissect his thought-provoking article, "Political Power and the Connotation Conspiracy." The conversation delves into the complex relationship between Christianity and state authority, with a particular emphasis on the impact of ancient Greek language on biblical scripture interpretation.

The podcast reveals how the translation of words such as 'exousia' and 'hupotaso' from Greek to English can drastically change meanings from 'authority' to 'power' and 'obey' to 'align with.' These linguistic transformations shed new light on well-known scriptures like Romans 13 and Acts 5:29, prompting a reevaluation of Christian perspectives on government, law enforcement, and societal roles.

Palmer provides anecdotes from his biweekly theological debates, adding depth to the discussion on how these subtle linguistic changes can impact Christian views on governance and societal roles. The dialogue is as rich as the cigars enjoyed during those fraternal exchanges, emphasizing the importance of humility and the acknowledgment that our understanding of absolute truth may be more fragile than we'd like to admit.

Listeners are challenged to critically examine scripture and question long-held beliefs, embracing the journey towards a deeper understanding of God's word. The episode concludes with an exploration of the controversial issue of translation conspiracies and their impact on Christian doctrines, particularly in relation to the alleged divine sanctioning of governmental authority. As they grapple with convenient passages like "render unto Caesar," the hosts encourage believers to reconsider what they've been taught. This episode is not only informative but also encourages transformative engagement with faith and politics. Tune in and be prepared to have your perspectives challenged and potentially reshaped.

Connect with Duncan Cary Palmer:

• Social Community: Peakd.com 

• Blog: Hive Blog

• Duncan’s email: creator@sidefire.com

Episode Timestamps:

Timestamps:

01:02 Christian-State Relationships

• Duncan Kerry Palmer's article "Political Power and the Connotation Conspiracy"

• Impact of translation on scripture interpretation, conspiracy possibility in translations.

• Updates on biweekly theological discussions.

• Engaging in debates, acknowledging limited understanding.

02:04 Scripture Through Translation

• Understanding scripture beyond face value translations.

• Potential for translation errors to influence interpretations.

05:02 Modern-Day Pharisees and Wisdom

• Concept of modern-day Pharisees, wisdom with age.

• Humility continued learning in understanding scripture.

07:07 Connotation in Translation

• Challenges faced by translators, subtle meaning shifts.

• Translation leads to misconceptions about divinely sanctioned powers.

• Importance of critical analysis of biblical language.

15:30 Greek Words in Scripture

• Biblical Greek nuances, influence on scriptural concepts of authority and submission.

• Significance of consistent word usage for understanding.

• Mistranslations of "exousia" and "hupotaso", importance of context.

28:43 Biblical Terminology

• Directive to "make disciples of all nations", misinterpretation related to converting governments.

• Personal anecdote about a speeding ticket, reaction to authoritative language.

• Difference between persuasion and command in leadership.

42:56 God's Government Through His Assembly

• Concept of governance, spiritual authority from a Christian perspective.

• Biases in translation and interpretation, the word "Ecclesia."

• Scripture implications for Jesus' role as a ruler, governance through the church.

54:16 Translation Conspiracies in Christianity

• Misuse of scripture to justify statism, complacency in accepting interpretations.

• Acceptance of out-of-context verses need for deeper scripture study.

• Potential influence of translation committees on skewing original text meanings.

10:02 Lost in Translation

• "Connotation stack up" effect on scriptural interpretation.

• Stacking translations misleading readers about biblical instructions.

21:24 Romans 13 and Governing Authorities

• Interpretation issues surrounding Romans 13, historical context.

• Critical difference between "submit" and "obey" in scripture.

24:14 Christianity and Politics

• Relationship between Christianity and politics, scriptural translation.

• Role of political authority in relation to faith.

36:43 Untranslated Greek Words in the Bible

• Presence of untranslated Greek words in the Bible, implications for understanding.

• Translating certain Greek terms for clarity in Christian doctrine.

42:56 Government, Church, and Satan's Kingdom

• Secular nation-states as "fiefdoms of Satan."

• Governance, spiritual authority through the church vs secular entities.

47:06 Power and Authority of Christ

• True power, authority of Christ vs earthly rulers.

• Recognition of Jesus as the one true King, rejection of secular authority figures.

53:03 Frustration With Christian Statism

• Frustration with Christians accepting statist interpretations of scripture.

• Active effort in studying scripture for discerning true message.

01:00:59 Explore Duncan’s Work

• Reading articles on Peakd.com or his Hive Blog

• Duncan’s email: creator@sidefire.com

• Engagement with content, resources for deeper understanding.

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